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of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about illegal residency. >> got to go. >> i mentioned last night if you want to gauge the sour mood check out the bertha bill that cleared the house last week. ended barack obama requires all presidential candidates to reduce evidence of their american citizenship. senate candidate jd haworth, welcome back. there's an article in politico you were prominently mentioned in it. it has phrases like arizona is turning into a bunch line it's a wing nut paradise it features the nation's new nut iest body are blazing a trail into the fringe.
of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about...
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would trump federal law. that's the biggest one here. these others are very controversial, but apparently now you're talking about both sides at least losing in part. what i'm unclear about, you may know, shannon, is is -- if both sides would appeal this to the #th circuit court of appeals and how would that proceed and the law, the major portion of the law, still go into effect at midnight tonight. it looks as if that is the case. shannon: we've got another legal eagle with us to help iron this out. trace, stand by. we've got peter jon: johnson, j. with us. trace brings up a great point. when you have an injunction that's granted in part and denied in part, you have a question, whether the injunction stays in place while the appeal is going on. what do you snrict. >> it's going to be ninth circuit, one way or the other, which is located in san francisco, and it's typically a liberal-leaning circuit court, so if the government feels that they are aggrieved, then they will seek an expedited appeal and they wil
would trump federal law. that's the biggest one here. these others are very controversial, but apparently now you're talking about both sides at least losing in part. what i'm unclear about, you may know, shannon, is is -- if both sides would appeal this to the #th circuit court of appeals and how would that proceed and the law, the major portion of the law, still go into effect at midnight tonight. it looks as if that is the case. shannon: we've got another legal eagle with us to help iron...
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laws, nothing. they come to under the radar when it comes to the taking advantage of the social services. at the end of the day, someone with a less interest is a nuisance. once they're a nuisance, they don't benefit society as a whole. >> glenn: george in the middle of the second row and then we'll taking a break. >> illegal versus legal. everybody here, including myself, are for immigration, but for legal immigration. if you are going to break down law, are you going to break every other law? we are a country of laws. that's why we're a great country. >> glenn: i'm going to take a break and then we'll start think. want to go over this. i think this is relatively easy to fix but i'm alone in that i think. i want to go over my plan and see what you think. e at the top of the hour for "special report." ♪ ♪ [ applause ] >> glenn: welcome back to the program "time to be heard." this is an audience full of legal immigrants. i don't think anybody has a problem in america, but we're told we do. if you
laws, nothing. they come to under the radar when it comes to the taking advantage of the social services. at the end of the day, someone with a less interest is a nuisance. once they're a nuisance, they don't benefit society as a whole. >> glenn: george in the middle of the second row and then we'll taking a break. >> illegal versus legal. everybody here, including myself, are for immigration, but for legal immigration. if you are going to break down law, are you going to break...
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actually enforce these laws. no, they're just laws that exist but we couldn't enforce them. this is la-la land. finally, the republicans. i say that the republicans should, of course, exploit this issue because it's a winner across the board with independents, men, women, small business owners for the most part and i think they say look, you want more of this? your will is being ignored. this is an example of it and kagan will vote to uphold what the district court judge did. kagan will vote. the kagan vote is important. >> it's not just a good issue for the republicans in general. it's particularly good issue for them in terms of state legislative and gubernatorial races which are crucial because that controls the reapportion atment for the next decade. you can have a republican candidate saying i want this law passed in oklahoma. passed in mississippi. passed in arizona -- in arkansas, passed in louisiana and really create a strong momentum for republican candidacy. and -- >> run away judges. and end to runaway
actually enforce these laws. no, they're just laws that exist but we couldn't enforce them. this is la-la land. finally, the republicans. i say that the republicans should, of course, exploit this issue because it's a winner across the board with independents, men, women, small business owners for the most part and i think they say look, you want more of this? your will is being ignored. this is an example of it and kagan will vote to uphold what the district court judge did. kagan will vote....
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this law is fair. we go farther than the federal laws we tacked about. we put safeguards in that the federal law doesn't have you've got the obama administration trying continue policy into a lawsuit to maintain their nonenforcement mentality and agenda this is about amnesty. it interferes. interior enforcement is 75%. this administration is doing everything they can not to enforce the law. then sue the americans siding with those who break into our country, and president calderon who came to our house and criticized our law and citizens while they ignore the damage and cost of millions and deaths and maimings and jobs taken from americans. i've never seen anything so upside down this is the most callally written lawsuit, you are right, no -- the they talk about preem , there's never, let me repeat, never has there been a preemption issue on states enforcing this the courts have ruled many times, i could go on with case laws, we enforced many federal laws. it is outrageous this is about an agenda. this president is acting like a dictator this is a presid
this law is fair. we go farther than the federal laws we tacked about. we put safeguards in that the federal law doesn't have you've got the obama administration trying continue policy into a lawsuit to maintain their nonenforcement mentality and agenda this is about amnesty. it interferes. interior enforcement is 75%. this administration is doing everything they can not to enforce the law. then sue the americans siding with those who break into our country, and president calderon who came to...
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>> bret: doesn't, juan, this law mirror the federal law? >> it does, but what we have here a situation where they have, the state government and i think properly, that the federal government abdicated its responsibility dealing with the illegal immigration issue. if you hear people talk about dereliction of duty, it's not that we failed to care about illegal immigration or build walls. we have. the dereliction of duty is we find it political impossible to say here is what we'll do with the 12 to 13 million illegal aliens in the country, we don't have a way to deal with it and the politicians left and right are stuck. that's how an american leadership is failing in this moment. the second thing i'd say is charles says he hopes they'll enforce it properly. if you have want indication of why there should be challenge and why people are concerned about the law, gee, you hope they enforce it properly? hope the cop doesn't any you look suspicious? that's trouble. >> i disagree and i think people out there will have a problem with the process and
>> bret: doesn't, juan, this law mirror the federal law? >> it does, but what we have here a situation where they have, the state government and i think properly, that the federal government abdicated its responsibility dealing with the illegal immigration issue. if you hear people talk about dereliction of duty, it's not that we failed to care about illegal immigration or build walls. we have. the dereliction of duty is we find it political impossible to say here is what we'll do...
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as the chief law enforcement official in the state of utah, speaking on behalf of most law enforcement officers we don't want to be doing the job for feds. but we have to have a role in public safety what we are doing in utah is a strike force where we just focus on criminal aliens. felons guys stealing your identity, drug trafficking, human trafficking and running guns and so forth. that's where we want to focus our efforts. we need other undocuments a as confidential aliens to get rid of the worst of the worst. something like arizona makes it difficult for us to do that job. that's the security part. >> greta: i don't think arizona wants to do the work for the feds either. i think the problem is they see the feds have not done the job so they are stepping in. and you say it is a economic crime. i think arizona, arizona is feeling sort of the fear from mexico with the horrible drug cartels and feeling phoenix is the second highest kidnapping capital in the world. for them it is more than an economic issue perhaps less so they are concerned about the criminal aspect. >> absolutely. we
as the chief law enforcement official in the state of utah, speaking on behalf of most law enforcement officers we don't want to be doing the job for feds. but we have to have a role in public safety what we are doing in utah is a strike force where we just focus on criminal aliens. felons guys stealing your identity, drug trafficking, human trafficking and running guns and so forth. that's where we want to focus our efforts. we need other undocuments a as confidential aliens to get rid of the...
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of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about illegal residency. >> got to go. be right back. [ male announcer ] designed to function the way you funion. the lexus rx. ♪ at your lexus deal. ♪ why go there when there's olay regenerist? [ male announcer ] micro-sculpting cream hydrates better than the $700 cream. [ female announcer ] and not only that, [ male announcer ] most women found olay as luxurious as department store products. [ female announcer ] effective. affordable. regenerist. it was in my sisr'neighborhood. i told y it waserfect for you guys. literally acros
of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about...
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our law mirrors federal law. if arizona's law is wrong and is what he says that it is, the federal law is wrong too. enforce the laws. we are a nation of laws. we have to abide by those laws. >> greta: it seems where the great divide is, if i can figure this out teen the two parties, i realize arizona is sort of separate on this dispute here in washington national up tkpwraeugs policy the republicans want to saourt border first. once the border is secure, then look to doing something in early of eventing a nation immigration policy. the democrats want to do both simultaneously that's where the two are at war is that how see the issue on a national level? >> absolutely. let's be practical. if your house is burning down you put out the fire then call the architect to see how you are going to rebuild. we've been down this path for decades in regards to the border security issue. we've had president after president, even my favorite star, my idol, ronald reagan, back in 19896, tried to secure the border. -- 1986, tri
our law mirrors federal law. if arizona's law is wrong and is what he says that it is, the federal law is wrong too. enforce the laws. we are a nation of laws. we have to abide by those laws. >> greta: it seems where the great divide is, if i can figure this out teen the two parties, i realize arizona is sort of separate on this dispute here in washington national up tkpwraeugs policy the republicans want to saourt border first. once the border is secure, then look to doing something in...
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if you don't think a law is good, change the law. don't just go out there and announce that we don't pay any attention to it. >> geraldo: but isn't law and order, crime and justice, shouldn't the state be able to say this is good for our people and this is not? >> do a degree. but in the case of let's say medical marijuana if you can go to california and then legally buy it and transport it across the state lines that is where the issue comes up. if it is not legal maybe in the adjacent state. does that jurisdiction then go ahead and bust the people who then claim wait a minute, i have legal right to have this stuff? >> geraldo: we are going to talk about immigration in a bit. when i talk about my views on immigration i get amazingly negative feedback from i would say most of the people in my audience. when i talk about legalizing marijuana i do not. my perception is that that issue crosses idea logical or political philosophical lines that most people say hey, when it many coulds to pot, yes, it is harmful and makes kids dumb in sch
if you don't think a law is good, change the law. don't just go out there and announce that we don't pay any attention to it. >> geraldo: but isn't law and order, crime and justice, shouldn't the state be able to say this is good for our people and this is not? >> do a degree. but in the case of let's say medical marijuana if you can go to california and then legally buy it and transport it across the state lines that is where the issue comes up. if it is not legal maybe in the...
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the text of the law actually matters. we are a country trif laws. the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of people in arizona who are there illegally, i want to know what your proposal is. you are king for a day. what would you do to remove the people who have in arizona illegally. what would you do? >> what we need is a uniquely conservative plan that is consistent with what ronald reagan believed in. that's that is let's secure our border. let's put all of our assets in the border. additional fencing, additional border patrol. but at the same time we need a guest worker program. because at the end, the root of the problem is. >> laura: so you would give them amnesty. that's fine but your answer is to make them legal. my question was very specific. this is the no spin zone. my question to you is if the people of the state want people who are there illegally to leave and they ask the government, governor, you have got to help us. we have a problem. our schools are overrun, our emergency rooms overtaxed 1.3 billion-dollar a year cost. we don't h
the text of the law actually matters. we are a country trif laws. the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of people in arizona who are there illegally, i want to know what your proposal is. you are king for a day. what would you do to remove the people who have in arizona illegally. what would you do? >> what we need is a uniquely conservative plan that is consistent with what ronald reagan believed in. that's that is let's secure our border. let's put all of our assets in the border....
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our law against the unconstitutionality of a federal law. no appellate court, including the supreme court, in the history of this country has ever told a state they didn't have the right to defend their own sovereign laws irvetion you are asking the supreme court to decide in your case? >> yes, we would like to see the florida case -- obviously, the legislation ruled unconstitutional because of the mandate. and then to apply that ruling to the virginia case, which would effectively overrule the fourth circuit. then we tie up everything in a bow, right there. >> greta: general bondi, clear the decks, we are sitting on pins and needles, all of us, wondering when the decision's going to come down and which way it's going to be. are you on standby? i assume the state can't really -- it's in limbo right now, what to do? >> we all are. ken and i spoke yesterday. of course, you knowings, i think all the states are in limbo, florida and 25 other states. we went up with the best opinion in the country. so we only hope for the best. i know any day now
our law against the unconstitutionality of a federal law. no appellate court, including the supreme court, in the history of this country has ever told a state they didn't have the right to defend their own sovereign laws irvetion you are asking the supreme court to decide in your case? >> yes, we would like to see the florida case -- obviously, the legislation ruled unconstitutional because of the mandate. and then to apply that ruling to the virginia case, which would effectively...
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protesters are demonstrating at this hour against a new law, signed into law an hour ago by the governor of arizona, imposing tough new regulations regard i regarding l immigration. we have team coverage. white house correspondent major garrett tells us what president obama thinks of the new law. adam housley has the story from arizona. we start with major at the white house. major? >> reporter: good evening, bret. the president today in a ceremony that was set aside mainly for naturalization ceremony for 24 members of the united states military, used that ceremony to talk about this arizona law and make clear his administration will keep track of it as it's implemented. during a naturalzation ceremony for 24 member of the united states military, president obama plunged into the arizona immigration controversy. warning the justice department would investigate civil rights violations that might arise from a brandp new law empowering local police to check a person's legal status. >> our failure to act responsibly at the federal level will only open the door to irresponsibility by others. t
protesters are demonstrating at this hour against a new law, signed into law an hour ago by the governor of arizona, imposing tough new regulations regard i regarding l immigration. we have team coverage. white house correspondent major garrett tells us what president obama thinks of the new law. adam housley has the story from arizona. we start with major at the white house. major? >> reporter: good evening, bret. the president today in a ceremony that was set aside mainly for...
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> we have laws against drunken driving. >> but my guests say we should abolish drunk driving laws? how would that work? and what about cars what they do to the environment. >> this rollercoaster is headed for a crash and we're in the front car. >> the central planners say cars must get better mileage. >> everyone wins. they pay less for fuel, the economy runs more efficiently. >> it sounds good. >> to provide us with good stuff but with we rely on government to guide innovation, this is what we get. >> this is what a government planned car really looks like. they want more control? >> we have to accept the fact that is the way we have done things. >> no, it's no the. >> what is government doing in our car? that is our show tonight. >> john: i would like the government get out of my car. from air bags, another safety devices to the miles per gallon we get. government calls the shots. the politicians say, it's for your own good. to create a cleaner and safer world. president obama says the law that requires fleets of cars to average at least 35 miles per gallon will help break depend
> we have laws against drunken driving. >> but my guests say we should abolish drunk driving laws? how would that work? and what about cars what they do to the environment. >> this rollercoaster is headed for a crash and we're in the front car. >> the central planners say cars must get better mileage. >> everyone wins. they pay less for fuel, the economy runs more efficiently. >> it sounds good. >> to provide us with good stuff but with we rely on...
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what same saying is there is no will to enforce this immigration law, all the laws on the books. so what if they find out the status of people in arizona, what are they going to do about it then? where is the enforcement? well, two things one is that they can continue to enforce their human smuggling act, many instances a minivan where one person is driving a snug gler and 16 people crammed into it being smuggled. that information can be used to enforce state law, the other point i would make is, this look, hopefully in seven months we have an descration that actually thinks the law should be enforced and then the arizona law will really kick in and could massively increase the rule of law, you know, i point this out, too, laura and also respond to what chuck said, these state laws are having a great impact. vears, this is the last of several laws that they have taken, they have passed to increase the enforce ngs of immigration laws, the last one was improved by the supreme court last year the illegal act. the proof is in the pudding. between the 2008 and 2011 and that three-year
what same saying is there is no will to enforce this immigration law, all the laws on the books. so what if they find out the status of people in arizona, what are they going to do about it then? where is the enforcement? well, two things one is that they can continue to enforce their human smuggling act, many instances a minivan where one person is driving a snug gler and 16 people crammed into it being smuggled. that information can be used to enforce state law, the other point i would make...
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it's not about the law itself or changes to the law. instead what you have here is a situation where the right who has already stopped someone for a cause. they have to have cause. they can't just stop you for a reason. they can inquire about your immigration status. by the way, this is a strong win for the obama white house. but i would take my hat off to governor brewer because she went back and changed the law to say you can't just engage in racial profiling. there has to be legitimate reason if you stop the person. at that point in coordination with federal law. it's thoroughly legitimate for law enforcement officer to say fred barnes, do you have -- are you a citizen? >> of course. >> you don't have to have your papers -- >> bret: but fred does, apparently. your thoughts? >> i have a work permit. governor brewer is right. centerpiece is upheld. ask about the immigration status. then mara was saying, look, we'll be watching. you better do it right. the police used it warily. on the other hand it's a weakness. let me add one more thi
it's not about the law itself or changes to the law. instead what you have here is a situation where the right who has already stopped someone for a cause. they have to have cause. they can't just stop you for a reason. they can inquire about your immigration status. by the way, this is a strong win for the obama white house. but i would take my hat off to governor brewer because she went back and changed the law to say you can't just engage in racial profiling. there has to be legitimate...
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law enforcement is the one who would have had to execute this law >> greta: i think law enforcement wanted it. >> there were a lot who didn't. >> greta: not just picking someone up on the treat there are other issues. phoenix is the kidnapping capital. >> i think there's more fear-mongering. you would think every latino arizona is a crook and they are not. >> greta: i don't think anyone is saying that. >> there's a bottom line. if congress wanted to act --.h$% >> greta: they don't -- >> they could do it and they don't do it. that's the sad part that's the 500 pound gorilla in the room. >> greta: they do not. on one side you have people who love the cheap labor, let's face it, the labor is cheap. people on the other side think they are going to be potential votes. neither side cares to sort out a problem that is a problem for many in the nation. >> right. if you let it go it looks and smells like racial profiling that's what everybody was up in arms over, including me. it is a problem. >> greta: how do you get the federal government to act? this state has been begging. texas is begging many
law enforcement is the one who would have had to execute this law >> greta: i think law enforcement wanted it. >> there were a lot who didn't. >> greta: not just picking someone up on the treat there are other issues. phoenix is the kidnapping capital. >> i think there's more fear-mongering. you would think every latino arizona is a crook and they are not. >> greta: i don't think anyone is saying that. >> there's a bottom line. if congress wanted to act...
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they found that it conflicts with federal law or overrides federal law at some point. that being a state crime in arizona, that portion is struck down. bill: one more thing makes it a crime under state law for an illegal immigrant to fail to apply for registration papers, violators face up to 20 days in jail for a first offense. that -pls ha also has been struck down as well. do you recall what jan brewer the governor of arizona said this she would do in her state if she failed to be successful at the high court in. >> well she said they would go forward with whatever parts of the law did survive and continue to battle to in some way redraft, have another piece of legislation, take another bite at the apple. this is the final court in the land, so this legal challenge is the end for those particular provisions, but there are other grounds and which they could be challenged. there are those on the other side of this case who said whatever survives they have a lawsuit waiting in the wings, waiting to be filed oepg to get back leer. sb1070 the portion that did survive it
they found that it conflicts with federal law or overrides federal law at some point. that being a state crime in arizona, that portion is struck down. bill: one more thing makes it a crime under state law for an illegal immigrant to fail to apply for registration papers, violators face up to 20 days in jail for a first offense. that -pls ha also has been struck down as well. do you recall what jan brewer the governor of arizona said this she would do in her state if she failed to be successful...
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at that point law enforcement entered the bunker and rescued the child and law enforcement confirming that the suspect, 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. >> jonathan, thank you for those details from this incredible story breaking news developments tonight in that story of the alabama little boy being held can't tive for -- captive for 7 days. it has come to an end jimmy lee dykes deceased to the hands of law enforcement. stay with fox news. we will be back after we return. hi. hi. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola. >> the big story here today is of course if you have been watching it s
at that point law enforcement entered the bunker and rescued the child and law enforcement confirming that the suspect, 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes is dead. >> jonathan, thank you for those details from this incredible story breaking news developments tonight in that story of the alabama little boy being held can't tive for -- captive for 7 days. it has come to an end jimmy lee dykes deceased to the hands of law enforcement. stay with fox news. we will be back after we return. hi. hi. i'm...
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law enforcement can enforce the law and will. the loss of the ability of citizens, something our founding fathers thought was important, we the people, in arizona we still believe in we the people. the government has a policy, any political subdivision that limits or restricts the enforcement of immigration laws we will saw them. that suit will be $5,000 a day, everyday until that policy is changed. this law will be enforced. also goes after day laborers. enough is enough. if somebody picks up an illegal alien for day labor they will be charged and their vehicle will be impounded for thirty days. this bill still has a lot of teeth and we will win on appeal. greta you know i ran -- i ran this bill in '05, '06, '0 ,' 8, '09 ab 2007 and finally a government no who will sign this bill. >> greta: frankly i don't see it as a victory. i don't. fundamentally, it has gotten everybody all revved up. all upset for the last three, four, five months. the real problem is a simple one in many ways. arizona wants its border more secure, and ever
law enforcement can enforce the law and will. the loss of the ability of citizens, something our founding fathers thought was important, we the people, in arizona we still believe in we the people. the government has a policy, any political subdivision that limits or restricts the enforcement of immigration laws we will saw them. that suit will be $5,000 a day, everyday until that policy is changed. this law will be enforced. also goes after day laborers. enough is enough. if somebody picks up...
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we need federal labor law? that's where things have evolved. the first step we have to take is to completely revamp the national relations board, if not eliminate it altogether, and turn back to courts or to an agency with shorter reins. my own view is that states should be putting in place right to work laws to allow the people of their states to participate and not join a union. >> governor, that sounds like a maybe on the getting rid of. >> 20 seconds left. >> at this time i would not oppose getting rid of all federal law. we have to rain in the power of the national labor relations board. my preference is return power and authority to the states. >> and we have to close it out at that point. every candidate has had exactly the same amount of time. governor romney, thank you for joining us tonight. up next, all six candidates coming back. their final thoughts on tonight's republican presidential forum. pú? >>> each of the six candidates had equal time to answer our panel questions. now they are joining us
we need federal labor law? that's where things have evolved. the first step we have to take is to completely revamp the national relations board, if not eliminate it altogether, and turn back to courts or to an agency with shorter reins. my own view is that states should be putting in place right to work laws to allow the people of their states to participate and not join a union. >> governor, that sounds like a maybe on the getting rid of. >> 20 seconds left. >> at this time...
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it doesn't mean that the law is wise. it doesn't mean that the law is good for the country. americans want us to start over. today's decision does nothing to change that. >> in fact, majority leader cantor scheduled a fresh vote on july 11 to repeal the law. they also noted the healthcare law is only constitutional because it's a tax. >> it is the largest tax in america's history. we also know that cbo estimated that up 20 million americans will lose their employer health insurance. >> democrats took the decision as vindication and touted it as a victory for american families. >> children can no longer be denied coverage due to preexisting condition. young people can stay on their parent's policy until the 26 years old. >> the senate majority leader hailed the decision even as he suggested some changes are needed. >> we know that when we come back here after the election there may be things we need to do to improve the law. we'll do that working together. >> small business was particularly concerned and called the added cost of the new law enormous wet blanket for small empl
it doesn't mean that the law is wise. it doesn't mean that the law is good for the country. americans want us to start over. today's decision does nothing to change that. >> in fact, majority leader cantor scheduled a fresh vote on july 11 to repeal the law. they also noted the healthcare law is only constitutional because it's a tax. >> it is the largest tax in america's history. we also know that cbo estimated that up 20 million americans will lose their employer health insurance....
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the doj says the federal law triumphs state law in this matter. anita vogel live in our los angeles bureau with more. >> reporter: we've been talking with constitutional law experts and we're led to believe it's going to be a showdown in the courtroom. as you mentioned the doj lawsuit drives home the point that federal law supersedes state law. so if the arizona law deviates from federal law in any way it could be troublesome for arizona. legal experts point out that federal authorities have a lot of leeway when enforcing immigration laws. listen. >> i think the problem for the state of arizona is that federal law gives the immigration enforcement agencies of the federal government substantial discretion in deciding what laws to enforce and how to enforce them. >> reporter: now there are certainly other lawyers who believe otherwise. we know that lawyers from the american center for law and justice say arizona is on perfectly solid legal ground and sb1070 doesn't conflict with federal law and they are filing a brief in support of the law along wit
the doj says the federal law triumphs state law in this matter. anita vogel live in our los angeles bureau with more. >> reporter: we've been talking with constitutional law experts and we're led to believe it's going to be a showdown in the courtroom. as you mentioned the doj lawsuit drives home the point that federal law supersedes state law. so if the arizona law deviates from federal law in any way it could be troublesome for arizona. legal experts point out that federal authorities...
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does the federal law. federal law allows federal immigration officials to say are you in the country illegally? are you a citizen? the arizona law says you can only do that if that person has come into contact with the legal system for some other purpose if there's a reasonable suspicion they are not a citizen. >> greta: i'm oppose odd to racial profiling from the get-go. if you have that same standard of behavior thank you are talking about separate and apart from immigration you can under a case that went to the supreme court in 1968, physically pat somebody down and touch the person and frisk for weapons asking for a driver's license is less intrusive. then of course you the issue of whether or not the state can -- you got the issue of whether or not the state can -- any way. >> you have the 9th circuit opinion, far left coast these are not necessarily mainstream judges officers are allowed to ask about his or her immigration status regardless whether there was a reasonable . there's a difference teen v
does the federal law. federal law allows federal immigration officials to say are you in the country illegally? are you a citizen? the arizona law says you can only do that if that person has come into contact with the legal system for some other purpose if there's a reasonable suspicion they are not a citizen. >> greta: i'm oppose odd to racial profiling from the get-go. if you have that same standard of behavior thank you are talking about separate and apart from immigration you can...
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that would be a big undertaking. >> and it gets to the nature of the law itself. judge vincent said it was not severable. i think that judge vincent may be the only one that read all 7,200 pages, once you do that, you see it's just the most incomprehensible complex piece of legislation and for somebody to, like justice ginsburg to start describing which of these endless parts you're going to save, is kind after fool's errand. >> the critics of the court if it overturns the law says it's an activist act by the justices, they're really just taking this law and throwing it out in total, but would it be activist or more activist just to overthrow part of it? >> well, see, that's the point. well, if they've struck some parts and not others, they're trading a new law that congress never intended, so, wouldn't it be better, justice scalia argues, to give congress a blank slate. to say, look, you screwed up with this one and this is an important problem and the analogy he drew was to campaign finance law, where in the late 1970's, they threw out some parts of regulations
that would be a big undertaking. >> and it gets to the nature of the law itself. judge vincent said it was not severable. i think that judge vincent may be the only one that read all 7,200 pages, once you do that, you see it's just the most incomprehensible complex piece of legislation and for somebody to, like justice ginsburg to start describing which of these endless parts you're going to save, is kind after fool's errand. >> the critics of the court if it overturns the law says...
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law. how much could this have an impact on her, shannon? >> it's definitely something she's going to have to discuss during the conformation process. she was one of many educators around the country who decided they wanted to ban military recruiters from campus because of don't ask don't tell. she said i don't think it's fair and in fact i think it's unwise for us to have any recruiter on campus who doesn't offer a job that any of our students could take based on any particular characteristic. gay students wouldn't be eligible for the military jobs so she thought they didn't belong on calf us. she did sign on to a legal challenge from came to the supreme court and she lost. that was a unanimous decision. she's going to have military groups saying they're extremely displeased, they want to call her radically antimilitary. she has had a lot of statements in favor of the military but when it came to the issue about the don't ask don't tell, it was a breaking issue. bill: shannon bream, thank
law. how much could this have an impact on her, shannon? >> it's definitely something she's going to have to discuss during the conformation process. she was one of many educators around the country who decided they wanted to ban military recruiters from campus because of don't ask don't tell. she said i don't think it's fair and in fact i think it's unwise for us to have any recruiter on campus who doesn't offer a job that any of our students could take based on any particular...
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>> well, we will defend the law. although we don't know how because even though the justice department finally got around to reading it, they still apparently haven't figured out what grounds to challenge it. look at your own federal immigration laws and practice on them because arizona just adopted federal law. >> i'm wondering what happens in the interim. say you're on safe legal ground and many argue you are, but does it freeze whatever you want to do in the state in the interim for fear, on the part of independent police officers trying to do this, from doing this? >> no, so far there's been no legal challenge. this is political posturing, possibly playing to a democrat base. even though a lot of democrats liked this law. we're not going to stop enforcing the law until the judge tells us we have to and we'll try to overturn that decision. >> this comes at a time when many cities in california, for example and others, are boycotting your state because of this. we're going to talk to republican senatorial candidate
>> well, we will defend the law. although we don't know how because even though the justice department finally got around to reading it, they still apparently haven't figured out what grounds to challenge it. look at your own federal immigration laws and practice on them because arizona just adopted federal law. >> i'm wondering what happens in the interim. say you're on safe legal ground and many argue you are, but does it freeze whatever you want to do in the state in the interim...
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the federal law, look -- the federal law still requires law enforcement to protect the federal law. and so i don't think 1070 is really going to change anything that this decision by the judge, because we are still required in the state of arizona to enforce federal law, and it really has to happen, and i think that this will be appealed and hopefully the ninth circuit will roll in the right way. arthel: which way would that be in your mind? >> well, to enforce the federal law. because look, sb1070 did nothing more than say here is the federal law. we must protect the federal law, we must protect the borders. arthel: vernon, let me jump n i'm sorry, because i got your point there, but what i want to know specifically, if i could get out of you, some suggestions that you might have in terms of moving forward. as you said, you want to protect the people who are here legally, who went through the system, did it the right way, but you also want to have a law on the books that's going to punish the people who skipped to the head of the line, so to speak. >> that's absolutely right. the f
the federal law, look -- the federal law still requires law enforcement to protect the federal law. and so i don't think 1070 is really going to change anything that this decision by the judge, because we are still required in the state of arizona to enforce federal law, and it really has to happen, and i think that this will be appealed and hopefully the ninth circuit will roll in the right way. arthel: which way would that be in your mind? >> well, to enforce the federal law. because...
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that's the foundation for english law the found dags for united states law. it doesn't matter if you are the common man or president of the united states every american is under the constitution and this president is thumbing his nose at the constitution and acting in defiance of the constitution. we are saying enough is enough. >> last week some compared fast and furious to watergate. others ridiculed and compared it to remember when dna burton shot a pumpkin in his backyard to prove that he was the victim of murder not suicide. which is it? is it ridiculous or is it profound? what do you think? sandy adams from florida what do you think? >> i agree with michelle bachmann. no one is above the law. it was interesting to see that mr. holder met with chairman ice saw the night before the rule to show you the documents in the investigation. that's not what you do. you reinforce the documents that you have been dually subpoenaed for. then at the 11th hour before it drops in committee we executive privilege pulled. which is it? either you weren't involved didn't k
that's the foundation for english law the found dags for united states law. it doesn't matter if you are the common man or president of the united states every american is under the constitution and this president is thumbing his nose at the constitution and acting in defiance of the constitution. we are saying enough is enough. >> last week some compared fast and furious to watergate. others ridiculed and compared it to remember when dna burton shot a pumpkin in his backyard to prove...
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. >> the law may not be a terrible law. i object to your rush to judgment and your rush to say that every state should pass this law and only kooks from even the far left and the far right they couldn't object to this. naming -- having laws passed after children who tragically die is just a bad way to make law. >> jessica's law worked out real well 44 states have passed it as you know, now that they have mandatories taking away the discretion from the crazy judges and these guys are paying a price. >> discretion can be a good thing. >> not in this case. >> well, jessica's law, which you pushed for. >> bill: right. >> may not be a terrible law though in california, the police are complaining that a lot of these people now are homeless. they have no place to live. >> bill: that's megan's law. that's not jessica's law. >> they said jessica's law. >> bill: they are crazy. jessica's law is a punitive action against child rapist and it's worked. let's get back to cailee's law. the stats show and i'm a stat man as you know that th
. >> the law may not be a terrible law. i object to your rush to judgment and your rush to say that every state should pass this law and only kooks from even the far left and the far right they couldn't object to this. naming -- having laws passed after children who tragically die is just a bad way to make law. >> jessica's law worked out real well 44 states have passed it as you know, now that they have mandatories taking away the discretion from the crazy judges and these guys are...
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>> rule of law, greta. the stories they tell, the outrageous fabrications and myths is unbelievable in in bill we've mirrored federal law. it is illegal to enter or remain in this country in violation of federal law. we've mirrored that. nobody has he raised 4th and 14th amendments we put profiling as an illegal issue in the bill. we could do tie it. we made sure people can't racial profile. these are the most outrageous stories. what we've done, very simply, i've watched over the years it get more and more violent. number two in the world in kidnappings, home invasion, carjacking, identity theft in the nation. officer atkins, officer martin, officer eagle, rob just murdered on the border. i just had a hearing for the ranchers on the border. half a day hearing on the senate. fences cut, cattle slaughtered, dogs killed, they are fearful, they pray for daylight they hear noises, scared to come out enough is enough. we are a nation of laws. all i've done, simple, removed the handcuffs. i've been in law enforce
>> rule of law, greta. the stories they tell, the outrageous fabrications and myths is unbelievable in in bill we've mirrored federal law. it is illegal to enter or remain in this country in violation of federal law. we've mirrored that. nobody has he raised 4th and 14th amendments we put profiling as an illegal issue in the bill. we could do tie it. we made sure people can't racial profile. these are the most outrageous stories. what we've done, very simply, i've watched over the years...
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the law has changed. there are constitutional due process rights that ca cannot be stram trampled upon. the rights spring not so much from the biological investment. but the interest this man has. what i would imagine would happen, part of that hearing coming up, they should focus on what was his attitude while this woman was pregnant? was this something -- was there something different about this child that wanted to take an interest in? was he supportive? what was the investment he made for this child? megyn: this dye guy doesn't sound -- this guy doesn't sounds like the greatest guy. but it could set a precedent. what does it matter that his history of domestic violence against the birth mother he was convicted of grabbing her about it hair, dragging her around the house about it hair and beginning to string her. he spent 8 months in prison for that. >> they have to set aside the laws and focus on what is in the best interest of the child. they will look at that criminal background and say is this the
the law has changed. there are constitutional due process rights that ca cannot be stram trampled upon. the rights spring not so much from the biological investment. but the interest this man has. what i would imagine would happen, part of that hearing coming up, they should focus on what was his attitude while this woman was pregnant? was this something -- was there something different about this child that wanted to take an interest in? was he supportive? what was the investment he made for...
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we want to enforce immigration law. they do it now, this clarifies it and makes it clear that's the intent. i don't see the problem and i don't think it's ununconstitutional. >> what about the argument is judge might make, let the feds clarify this, not you, arizona, that's their job, not yours. >> that's fine. it is the job of federal government to enforce immigration laws. by the way, they're doing that. all over the southwest border, including arizona. unfortunately what happened in arizona is the very aggressive enforcement in california and texas has pushed a lot of the illegal immigration into arizona so they're feeling the are brunt of one of the possible places to get through and they're saying we're sick of this. we want more action, we want law enforcement to help and make it clear they can do that. you hear this heated rhetoric but when you read the law, it's reasonable. the cop -- elise is wrong. you have to have auto good -- a good reason to pull them off. if they develop reason suspicion the guy's an alien
we want to enforce immigration law. they do it now, this clarifies it and makes it clear that's the intent. i don't see the problem and i don't think it's ununconstitutional. >> what about the argument is judge might make, let the feds clarify this, not you, arizona, that's their job, not yours. >> that's fine. it is the job of federal government to enforce immigration laws. by the way, they're doing that. all over the southwest border, including arizona. unfortunately what happened...
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as i said, i said, law and p -- as i said, i look at law and precedent and apply it. >> so you would not be a member of that school? >> no. >> would you be considered a strict constructionist in your mind? >> i do not use labels to describe what i do. there has been much discussion today about what various labels mean and do not mean. each person uses those labels and gives it their own sense. >> judge rehnquist says he was a strict constructionist. did you know what he was talking about? >> i think i understood what he was referencing, but his views is not how i go about looking at -- >> what does strict construction is them mean to you? >> it means that you look at the constitution as it is written or statutes as they are written, and you apply them exactly by the words -- what does strict constructionist mean to you? >> would you be an original list? >> again, i do not use labels -- would you be an originalist? >> again, i do not use labels. >> what is that? >> it is looking at what the situation confronting them was, in you use that to determine every situation -- and you use tha
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i'm not sure this preempts. >> you cannot pass laws inconsistent with federal laws. get is not inconsistent. and -- >> greta: itth is not inconsistent. >> border patrol people that's the dock they pointed me to. i'm saying here's the arizona standards, what's the comparable federal standard? the point is, arizona has a tightly drawn law. i'm not certain after july 29th, of next year when law has been in effect for a year, that somebody is going to go back and fan a lot of people have been touched by this i think it is going to be a modest number people falling under this statute. you cannot begin to invoke it unless you have pulled somebody over for a lawful arrest, detention or stop. then becomes a reasonable suspicion that they are not u.s. citizens. those are high tasks. >> greta: i assume the white house has seen the polls, the american people are behind arizona. i don't understand why is this politically advantageous to the president? >> they think long after the controversy of the moment has faded latinos will remember that barack obama stood with them. >> gret
i'm not sure this preempts. >> you cannot pass laws inconsistent with federal laws. get is not inconsistent. and -- >> greta: itth is not inconsistent. >> border patrol people that's the dock they pointed me to. i'm saying here's the arizona standards, what's the comparable federal standard? the point is, arizona has a tightly drawn law. i'm not certain after july 29th, of next year when law has been in effect for a year, that somebody is going to go back and fan a lot of...
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how do we argue then -- >> the law mirrors federal law. so if the feds aren't gonna do their job arizona is going to step up and do it. >> the lawsuit said this law is about attrition sole purpose to scare people out of the state. do agree? >> i think they attempted to scare people in responding to the initial presentation of the bill. obviously, today we found that the federal government did not address that issue of racial profiling into their lawsuit. >> greta: here's the best of the rest. miss california 2009 carrie prejean became famous for saying she did not support gay marriage. well, prejean is making headlines again thanks to the institution of marriage. she just tied the knot july 2nd, in san diego she married oakland raiders quarterback kyle boller. the company -- the couple had been dating for a year. no word if perez hilton was on the guest list. >> lindsay lohan going to the slammer, sentenced to 90 days for violating terms of her probation in a 2007 drug case. she tearfully asked for leniency. she burst into tears when the s
how do we argue then -- >> the law mirrors federal law. so if the feds aren't gonna do their job arizona is going to step up and do it. >> the lawsuit said this law is about attrition sole purpose to scare people out of the state. do agree? >> i think they attempted to scare people in responding to the initial presentation of the bill. obviously, today we found that the federal government did not address that issue of racial profiling into their lawsuit. >> greta: here's...
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law, the department of justice's job is to defend the laws that are on the books, the federal laws that are on the books. and now they're saying, pursuant to president obama's feeling that the law is unconstitutional, and eric holder said he agrees, they're just not going to do it. >> what i'm telling you is that when the government refuses, the executive branch refuses to defend a law, there are multiple cases in history of the house voting to intervene and represents its interests. i think that's what will happen, though this is probably breaking news for anyone out there. we're certainly going to be pushing very hard for congress to vote simply to defend this law and to make a case before the courts that the union of marriage is one man and one woman. it's not irrational bigotry and states have a right to define marriage in this way. megyn: in the meantime, what does it mean as a practical matter? does it mean that the obama white house and attorney general have said that it's unconstitutional. does it have any level ekt? does -- any legal effect? >> it's odd. we have one court decis
law, the department of justice's job is to defend the laws that are on the books, the federal laws that are on the books. and now they're saying, pursuant to president obama's feeling that the law is unconstitutional, and eric holder said he agrees, they're just not going to do it. >> what i'm telling you is that when the government refuses, the executive branch refuses to defend a law, there are multiple cases in history of the house voting to intervene and represents its interests. i...
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also to get behind jessica's law. if you're go to billoreilly.com, we have all the information for you. duke it on the net, and you can tell him that his behavior toward children is barbaric because it is. again, the information to contact governor andrew cuomo is on billoreilly.com. as a roman catholic, cuomo should know better. if there is indeed a judgment day, he better bring a good lawyer. talking points is not like to pinpoint americans in this way. i have nothing against cuomo or speaker in colorado. but i do not want my country to be a place of barbarism and i will fight against that. there comes a point where all good citizens must stand up for the most defenseless among us. and that's a memo. when we come back, we will talk to jessica lunsford's father mark who talked in colorado but was ignored by the legislature. later, lou dobbs on why facebook paid no income tax last year. also geraldo on the blade runner murder case. those reports after these messages. >> bill: continuing with our lead story is america
also to get behind jessica's law. if you're go to billoreilly.com, we have all the information for you. duke it on the net, and you can tell him that his behavior toward children is barbaric because it is. again, the information to contact governor andrew cuomo is on billoreilly.com. as a roman catholic, cuomo should know better. if there is indeed a judgment day, he better bring a good lawyer. talking points is not like to pinpoint americans in this way. i have nothing against cuomo or speaker...
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but he has a lot of law enforcement experience. and i'm surprised standing next to the fbi director making these comments doing a very vicious situation that occurred. but he did. he has to stand by it. >> bill: he is saying though, and this touches you personally, that the right wing rhetoric, he believes, somehow responsible for the shooting of the congressman and the murders of six other people. you are a conservative guy, right winger. you, i understand, are threatened all day long, i guess, by left wingers. is that wrong wrong? >> well, i think it is. i'm not going to get into all my threats. i have demonstrators today. everywhere i go from new hampshire to california. they are following me around. and i have elected officials blasting me. i hate to say, this but all the people that going after me happen to have a d after their name. i don't know if this is politics or not. >> bill: all right. but you have death threats against you. we know that you have death threats against you, correct? >> well, yeah. i hate to say that but
but he has a lot of law enforcement experience. and i'm surprised standing next to the fbi director making these comments doing a very vicious situation that occurred. but he did. he has to stand by it. >> bill: he is saying though, and this touches you personally, that the right wing rhetoric, he believes, somehow responsible for the shooting of the congressman and the murders of six other people. you are a conservative guy, right winger. you, i understand, are threatened all day long, i...
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of the law itself. if the mandate is supported by the court's ruling, it builds political support eventually for the law to become more popular. it will probably change public opinion somewhat better from today. today public opinion stands where it did a year ago. in the middle of more people oppose the law than support it. mostly majorities are confused about what is in the law and long battle of the administration. million of dollars spent and time spent to try to educate the public on the benefit. some people believe it's been repealed so there is a lot of confusion they have to work with. i guess they hope optimistically there is room to grow with the popularity. if you look at the fact that 12,000 people join the rule and that is what 3% of what the administration expected to fill the pools. if people aren't taking advantage of that. you look at what it's doing to medicaid i don't know how it becomes more popular over time. they join this to lower cost. >> medicaid is the biggest question for state
of the law itself. if the mandate is supported by the court's ruling, it builds political support eventually for the law to become more popular. it will probably change public opinion somewhat better from today. today public opinion stands where it did a year ago. in the middle of more people oppose the law than support it. mostly majorities are confused about what is in the law and long battle of the administration. million of dollars spent and time spent to try to educate the public on the...
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>>judgenapolitano: there is the law and there is the law, the law as written by the legislature, of the state of alaska, and it says the name must be spelled as it is registered. there is the law as interpreted by the supreme court of alaska which says it is the job of the ballot counter to discern the intent of the voter, so, as we were talking, you said if they spell her name incorrectly but close, a question you put to joe miller, does it count, yes. something like that would count. >> we have a graphic, would this counsel? >> any new tall person would say it is the intent of this voter to cast that ballot for senator murkowski. >> but state law says it must be held correct? >> and the highest authority interpreting that law says "correct" means the intent of the voter. he filed a lawsuit in federal court in order to avoid the snare of that state law to try and get a physical judge where he once sat to look at this differently. i say there as someone would wants him to win, he is the tea party guy, and i am a family guy, but the law is what it is and it is the intent ... okay, here i
>>judgenapolitano: there is the law and there is the law, the law as written by the legislature, of the state of alaska, and it says the name must be spelled as it is registered. there is the law as interpreted by the supreme court of alaska which says it is the job of the ballot counter to discern the intent of the voter, so, as we were talking, you said if they spell her name incorrectly but close, a question you put to joe miller, does it count, yes. something like that would count....
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of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about illegal residency. >> got to go.ún >> i mentioned last night if you want to gauge the sour mood check out the bertha bill that cleared the house last week. ended barack obama requires all presidential candidates to reduce evidence of their american citizenship. senate candidate jd haworth, welcome back. there's an article in politico you were prominently mentioned in it. it has phrases like arizona is turning into a bunch line it's a wing nut paradise it features the nation's new nut iest body are blazing a trail into the fring
of the law. we should find out how that is going to be applied to arizona before people go off on the deep end on this. >> geraldo. >> the con -- the problem congressman is there is no definition. congressman there is no definition number one, number two, anybody in the state can sue if they feel any government except the state which excluded itself if it was that important. thirdly this is about a crime not about an employer testing for drugs. >> got to go. this is about...
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we don't know -- joe just mentioned look at the law. the law says we presume him innocent. we are sitting here right now. as far as this public relations campaign. a lot of this get halfway around the world before the truth gets its pants on. we don't know. but here is one other point. i'll give you the last word. one other point is we have not seen any scratches, any injuries. we don't know what if anything happened. megyn: walk out of the hospital with a sling. >> you don't have to see a scratch. you don't have to see a bruise. as i hit here my back is killing me. what i can't establish and prove my back hurt by assure you it does. the law protects us from internal injuries, too. to say that it doesn't have the ring of credibility -- >> maybe you want to make a confession if you have been a porn star and hopped up on pills, i don't know if i believe you about your back. megyn: i'm not going to touch that. thank you so as much. one final word. these domestic abuys cases are tough. they often involved a he said-she said. unfortunately for the children involved here it appea
we don't know -- joe just mentioned look at the law. the law says we presume him innocent. we are sitting here right now. as far as this public relations campaign. a lot of this get halfway around the world before the truth gets its pants on. we don't know. but here is one other point. i'll give you the last word. one other point is we have not seen any scratches, any injuries. we don't know what if anything happened. megyn: walk out of the hospital with a sling. >> you don't have to see...
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. >> you have to repeal a law. you have to defund a law. laws don't implode. >> for me -- >> they say -- >> yeah. >> this is a line in the sand. every one of these guys ran on repealing obama care and replacing, every one of them. i know the house, they had all these, i guess symbolic votes to repeal it, but never of them had teeth in it. now is the moment of truth and if they don't do it, as far as i'm concerned, they're not any better than the democrats, because they're not even fighting. they don't respepresent anythin different. >> and they won't even fight. i mean, you got to give this to the left. they never give up. they fought for 100 years for government-run health care. these guys can't even fight for two weeks. all the government might shut down, we'll get blamed for it. see this list here -- sorry, i left my third grade white board at home. i garage waited high school and i used what is called paper. see this list here? these are all the times the federal government has been shut down. republican presidents, democrat presidents,
. >> you have to repeal a law. you have to defund a law. laws don't implode. >> for me -- >> they say -- >> yeah. >> this is a line in the sand. every one of these guys ran on repealing obama care and replacing, every one of them. i know the house, they had all these, i guess symbolic votes to repeal it, but never of them had teeth in it. now is the moment of truth and if they don't do it, as far as i'm concerned, they're not any better than the democrats, because...